Episode Summary
In this episode, firefighter, AEMT, and fitness coach Roy Smalley dives into the motivation behind his recent Firefighter Nation article, “The Fire Service Has a Fitness Problem — and It’s Not What You Think.”
After receiving both praise and criticism online, Roy sets the record straight: he’s not separating fitness from the emergency services — he’s separating fitness from the scale.
From avoiding gym class growing up to becoming a triathlete and respected trainer, Roy shares his personal journey, how he learned that fitness isn’t about aesthetics or numbers, and why firefighters must rethink what it truly means to be “fit for duty.” He also addresses critics head-on, pushing back against the myths of calendar culture and encouraging a more balanced, sustainable, and mission-focused approach to fire service wellness.
You’ll walk away from this episode inspired, challenged, and ready to rethink how you measure your own fitness — both on and off the job.
Key Topics Covered
Roy’s personal transformation from sedentary lifestyle to triathlon and coaching
Why separating fitness from the scale doesn’t mean separating it from the profession
How “calendar culture” and unrealistic standards hurt firefighters’ health and morale
The evolution of Roy’s coaching philosophy: balance, sustainability, and enjoyment over extremism
The meaning and power of Non‑Scale Victories (NSVs)
Addressing misconceptions and online criticism with humor and perspective
Real fitness metrics that matter in the fire service — endurance, recovery, strength, focus, and longevity
The myth of “too old to improve” and why fitness progress never stops
Memorable Quotes
“I’m not separating fitness from the fire service; I’m separating fitness from the scale.”
“You can’t make someone love exercise, but you can sure as heck make them hate it.”
“Separating fitness from the scale isn’t lowering standards; it’s raising the right ones.”
“Fitness isn’t what you weigh — it’s how well you live.”
Call to Action
What’s your non‑scale victory this week?
Share it with Roy on social media — whether it’s improved stamina, better sleep, a faster recovery, or simply feeling stronger during your shift. Let’s celebrate the wins that really count.
And if you haven’t yet, read Roy’s full article on Firefighter Nation — “The Fire Service Has a Fitness Problem — and It’s Not What You Think.” Then join the conversation by tagging Roy in your thoughts and takeaways.
Connect with Roy Smalley
Website & all links: www.roysmalley.us
Instagram: @roysmalley.us
Facebook: @roysmalley.us
LinkedIn: roysmalley
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